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		<title>By: Kathryn Deiss</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/03/17/you-do-read-some-of-those-journals/comment-page-1/#comment-73651</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Deiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Barbara, as my grandmother used to say &quot;always wish out loud you never know who may be overhearing!&quot; We will take your suggestion about TOC and emails and see what we can do with it! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Barbara, as my grandmother used to say &#8220;always wish out loud you never know who may be overhearing!&#8221; We will take your suggestion about TOC and emails and see what we can do with it! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, wow. Good stuff here. 

You know what would be nice? To get an e-mail with a TOC and links. Something to whip up in your spare time, Kathryn :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, wow. Good stuff here. </p>
<p>You know what would be nice? To get an e-mail with a TOC and links. Something to whip up in your spare time, Kathryn <img src='http://acrlog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Deiss</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/03/17/you-do-read-some-of-those-journals/comment-page-1/#comment-73475</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Deiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The C&amp;RL Preprints mentioned above are now up and available at:
http://www.ala.org/ala/acrl/acrlpubs/crljournal/preprints/preprints.cfm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The C&amp;RL Preprints mentioned above are now up and available at:<br />
<a href="http://www.ala.org/ala/acrl/acrlpubs/crljournal/preprints/preprints.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ala.org/ala/acrl/acrlpubs/crljournal/preprints/preprints.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Barbara! This is actually an idea recycled from my run at the ACRL Presidency last year, and based on a discussion I had during the campaign with Brian Hawkins, then at EDUCAUSE. He impressed me greatly, as he has many others, with his clear thinking about how to get an IT/Library agenda of issues before the broader academic community. In a nutshell: it is not through traditional, scholarly journals filled with articles by librarians and/or LIS educators :-)

This would be more than a &quot;new model&quot; for something that has been part of the traditional focus for ACRL publishing - if I read Kathryn&#039;s post correctly - but a new venture aimed at finding the sweet spot where academic libraries and broader issues in higher education meet, and mapping that landscape in ways that are compelling to classroom faculty, IT professionals, campus administrators, and, potentially, legislators, donors, and members of our local communities (and doing it with articles and essays that come from those non-librarian constituents of the academic library).

And, the print version (if there is one) has to be snazzy enough and compact enough to fit in a President&#039;s briefcase as he or she walks out the door to catch a plane, and the content has to be available freely to encourage sharing among people who do not routinely visit the library literature (and may not have access to member or institutionally-licensed resources).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Barbara! This is actually an idea recycled from my run at the ACRL Presidency last year, and based on a discussion I had during the campaign with Brian Hawkins, then at EDUCAUSE. He impressed me greatly, as he has many others, with his clear thinking about how to get an IT/Library agenda of issues before the broader academic community. In a nutshell: it is not through traditional, scholarly journals filled with articles by librarians and/or LIS educators <img src='http://acrlog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This would be more than a &#8220;new model&#8221; for something that has been part of the traditional focus for ACRL publishing &#8211; if I read Kathryn&#8217;s post correctly &#8211; but a new venture aimed at finding the sweet spot where academic libraries and broader issues in higher education meet, and mapping that landscape in ways that are compelling to classroom faculty, IT professionals, campus administrators, and, potentially, legislators, donors, and members of our local communities (and doing it with articles and essays that come from those non-librarian constituents of the academic library).</p>
<p>And, the print version (if there is one) has to be snazzy enough and compact enough to fit in a President&#8217;s briefcase as he or she walks out the door to catch a plane, and the content has to be available freely to encourage sharing among people who do not routinely visit the library literature (and may not have access to member or institutionally-licensed resources).</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Deiss</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/03/17/you-do-read-some-of-those-journals/comment-page-1/#comment-73385</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Deiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barbara, the four open access titles you found are our first foray into working in that modality. We have only been doing this for about 8 months. We really are seeking new models - both open access and revenue producing - for publishing and I would welcome all new ideas for remixing and changing the publication formats/process as well as ideas about content! And, of course, we are always looking for excellent authors and editors! ;-)
One of our hybrid experiments is our Library 2.0 in Academic Libraries book/wiki. This casebook contains 12 casestudies that will be kept updated on the wiki as things change in those actual cases. We hope attempts such as that one are interesting and useful to ACRL members and beyond.
If you have other ideas for other types of hybrid publications I&#039;d love to hear them.
Thanks for the feedback! (and please don&#039;t go sit in a corner - we value your opinions!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara, the four open access titles you found are our first foray into working in that modality. We have only been doing this for about 8 months. We really are seeking new models &#8211; both open access and revenue producing &#8211; for publishing and I would welcome all new ideas for remixing and changing the publication formats/process as well as ideas about content! And, of course, we are always looking for excellent authors and editors! <img src='http://acrlog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
One of our hybrid experiments is our Library 2.0 in Academic Libraries book/wiki. This casebook contains 12 casestudies that will be kept updated on the wiki as things change in those actual cases. We hope attempts such as that one are interesting and useful to ACRL members and beyond.<br />
If you have other ideas for other types of hybrid publications I&#8217;d love to hear them.<br />
Thanks for the feedback! (and please don&#8217;t go sit in a corner &#8211; we value your opinions!)</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, if we did what Scott suggests, maybe I would join ACRL for the publications! I love this idea. We&#039;re all about serving our communities, and then the only people we talk to is each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if we did what Scott suggests, maybe I would join ACRL for the publications! I love this idea. We&#8217;re all about serving our communities, and then the only people we talk to is each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue - the ACRL Member Survey to which you refer is only about 24 months old, I believe, and you&#039;re right that the journals were among the most valued perceived benefits of membership (although not as valued as the professional development opportunities). ACRLog provided survey summaries in 2006, e.g.:
http://acrlog.org/2006/07/31/remember-that-acrl-membership-survey-part-3/

Lorcan&#039;s point about EDUCAUSE is an important one, not only because it touches that oft-discussed question of the need for ALA/ACRL publications to pursue the open access alternatives that we promote among campus faculty for use by their scholarly societies, but also because of the question of focus. EDUCAUSE has done a fantastic job creating a publication that is aimed as much at academic administrators (and others on campus with an interest in technology), as it is among IT/Library professionals. Look at the title: EDUCAUSE Review: Why IT Matters in Higher Education. Not, &quot;scholarly inquiry into information technology,&quot; but &quot;why IT matters in higher education.&quot; I&#039;ve said this before, but, &quot;dreary&quot; though our literature may be (as well as fragmented), I think there is a niche waiting to be filled for a more broadly focused publication (preferably, as Lorcan notes, open access and non-member-based) on &quot;why libraries matter in higher education.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue &#8211; the ACRL Member Survey to which you refer is only about 24 months old, I believe, and you&#8217;re right that the journals were among the most valued perceived benefits of membership (although not as valued as the professional development opportunities). ACRLog provided survey summaries in 2006, e.g.:<br />
<a href="http://acrlog.org/2006/07/31/remember-that-acrl-membership-survey-part-3/" rel="nofollow">http://acrlog.org/2006/07/31/remember-that-acrl-membership-survey-part-3/</a></p>
<p>Lorcan&#8217;s point about EDUCAUSE is an important one, not only because it touches that oft-discussed question of the need for ALA/ACRL publications to pursue the open access alternatives that we promote among campus faculty for use by their scholarly societies, but also because of the question of focus. EDUCAUSE has done a fantastic job creating a publication that is aimed as much at academic administrators (and others on campus with an interest in technology), as it is among IT/Library professionals. Look at the title: EDUCAUSE Review: Why IT Matters in Higher Education. Not, &#8220;scholarly inquiry into information technology,&#8221; but &#8220;why IT matters in higher education.&#8221; I&#8217;ve said this before, but, &#8220;dreary&#8221; though our literature may be (as well as fragmented), I think there is a niche waiting to be filled for a more broadly focused publication (preferably, as Lorcan notes, open access and non-member-based) on &#8220;why libraries matter in higher education.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Searing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Searing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barbara wrote, &quot;Couldn’t we take the money saved on printing and mailing it and make it open access for all? I don’t join ACRL for the publications.&quot;  Me either, but I vaguely recall a survey of ACRL members that showed definitively that C&amp;RL and C&amp;RL News are the most valued benefits of membership -- especially for the many members who will never attend a conference or join a committee.  Does anyone know how old that survey is?  Do you think it&#039;s still true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara wrote, &#8220;Couldn’t we take the money saved on printing and mailing it and make it open access for all? I don’t join ACRL for the publications.&#8221;  Me either, but I vaguely recall a survey of ACRL members that showed definitively that C&amp;RL and C&amp;RL News are the most valued benefits of membership &#8212; especially for the many members who will never attend a conference or join a committee.  Does anyone know how old that survey is?  Do you think it&#8217;s still true?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, cool. Thanks Kathryn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, cool. Thanks Kathryn!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Deiss</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/03/17/you-do-read-some-of-those-journals/comment-page-1/#comment-73268</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Deiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, thanks for your comment which alerted us to the problems you point out. We will be putting up pre-prints of accepted C&amp;RL articles where authors grant permission to do so. This will start in the very near future - within the week. We apologize for the current blank page. The July 2007 issue is up. And, yes, there is a 6 month embargo prior to putting these up for the general public. I hope this helps answer some of the questions you have. Thanks for the feedback which is allowing us to correct errors that we missed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, thanks for your comment which alerted us to the problems you point out. We will be putting up pre-prints of accepted C&amp;RL articles where authors grant permission to do so. This will start in the very near future &#8211; within the week. We apologize for the current blank page. The July 2007 issue is up. And, yes, there is a 6 month embargo prior to putting these up for the general public. I hope this helps answer some of the questions you have. Thanks for the feedback which is allowing us to correct errors that we missed!</p>
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