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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t Ask Librarians For Help &#8211; Just ChunkIt!</title>
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		<title>By: Maria Sanchez</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/07/11/dont-ask-librarians-for-help-just-use-chunkit/comment-page-1/#comment-100494</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your blog talking about this product. A friend of mine also mentioned it the other day while talking about great Firefox add-ons, this is one that I happened to experiment with.  I am not familiar with LexisNexis, but I have used chunkit for booking a travel vacation with kids.  It actually was quite useful... I think the great thing about this toolbar is that it is just a google search on steroids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your blog talking about this product. A friend of mine also mentioned it the other day while talking about great Firefox add-ons, this is one that I happened to experiment with.  I am not familiar with LexisNexis, but I have used chunkit for booking a travel vacation with kids.  It actually was quite useful&#8230; I think the great thing about this toolbar is that it is just a google search on steroids.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Dewlil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Dewlil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just started using ChunkIt like a couple days ago, I&#039;m already in love with it.  But I think the title of this article is misleading.  Chunkit doesn&#039;t replace librarians... if anything, chunkit would only make librarians more efficient at their job.  This tool is awesome and is so versatile, four thumbs up from my wife and I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started using ChunkIt like a couple days ago, I&#8217;m already in love with it.  But I think the title of this article is misleading.  Chunkit doesn&#8217;t replace librarians&#8230; if anything, chunkit would only make librarians more efficient at their job.  This tool is awesome and is so versatile, four thumbs up from my wife and I.</p>
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		<title>By: Educación, Bibliotecas y TIC&#8217;s &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Chunkit!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Educación, Bibliotecas y TIC&#8217;s &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Chunkit!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] el blog de ACRL podrán encontrar un artículo sobre Chunkit! Experimenta y verás sus [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] el blog de ACRL podrán encontrar un artículo sobre Chunkit! Experimenta y verás sus [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Murray</title>
		<link>http://acrlog.org/2008/07/11/dont-ask-librarians-for-help-just-use-chunkit/comment-page-1/#comment-90198</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is important to note that the video appears to be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tigerlogic.com/ChunkIt/cool-examples.html#school&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a user-contributed submission&lt;/a&gt; to the ChunkIt website.  As such, it isn&#039;t ChunkIt itself that is promoting the use of the toolbar with LexisNexis -- it was probably a student.  That site shows other examples of using ChunkIt for &quot;School and Academic Research&quot; in post-processing results from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tigerlogic.com/ChunkIt/google-chunkit.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tigerlogic.com/ChunkIt/wikipedia-chunkit.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tigerlogic.com/ChunkIt/gutenberg-chunkit.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gutenburg&lt;/a&gt;.  (These three seem to be ChunkIt-generated examples.)  That said...

&lt;blockquote&gt;So while ChunkIt! may have some useful applications for search engines that offer no useful features for search refinement, it may not work as well for library databases that do offer a nice range of methods for students that do need to quickly move from very broad to more narrow results.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What works in the rest of the world will get applied to library services whether we like it or not.  &lt;em&gt;If&lt;/em&gt; ChunkIt takes off and becomes a ubiquitous tool in our users browsers, they will most likely turn to it rather than using any tool-specific functions -- no matter how good those tool-specific functions are.  Our challenge, it would seem to be, would be to feed information to ChunkIt&#039;s tool (again &lt;em&gt;if&lt;/em&gt; ChunkIt gets a deep enough penetration) in such a way as to maximize ChunkIt&#039;s ability to return good results to our users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is important to note that the video appears to be <a href="http://www.tigerlogic.com/ChunkIt/cool-examples.html#school" rel="nofollow">a user-contributed submission</a> to the ChunkIt website.  As such, it isn&#8217;t ChunkIt itself that is promoting the use of the toolbar with LexisNexis &#8212; it was probably a student.  That site shows other examples of using ChunkIt for &#8220;School and Academic Research&#8221; in post-processing results from <a href="http://www.tigerlogic.com/ChunkIt/google-chunkit.html" rel="nofollow">Google</a>, <a href="http://www.tigerlogic.com/ChunkIt/wikipedia-chunkit.html" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a>, and <a href="http://www.tigerlogic.com/ChunkIt/gutenberg-chunkit.html" rel="nofollow">Gutenburg</a>.  (These three seem to be ChunkIt-generated examples.)  That said&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>So while ChunkIt! may have some useful applications for search engines that offer no useful features for search refinement, it may not work as well for library databases that do offer a nice range of methods for students that do need to quickly move from very broad to more narrow results.</p></blockquote>
<p>What works in the rest of the world will get applied to library services whether we like it or not.  <em>If</em> ChunkIt takes off and becomes a ubiquitous tool in our users browsers, they will most likely turn to it rather than using any tool-specific functions &#8212; no matter how good those tool-specific functions are.  Our challenge, it would seem to be, would be to feed information to ChunkIt&#8217;s tool (again <em>if</em> ChunkIt gets a deep enough penetration) in such a way as to maximize ChunkIt&#8217;s ability to return good results to our users.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim McGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, Steven, you keen insights are surpassed only by the depth of your wisdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, Steven, you keen insights are surpassed only by the depth of your wisdom.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven, 

I agree with you wholeheartedly that this reflects a need for more user education. I would like to add something you touched on, which is that this also brings up the issue of student perceptions of the library. 

I recognize that many students don&#039;t know about the great search options in many databases, but, my broader concern is that the students don&#039;t even realize that they don&#039;t know that better searching exists. If someone is ignorant of their ignorance (even if it&#039;s through no fault of their own), how would they know to ask a librarian to begin with? I have tried to use every &quot;teachable moment&quot; opportunity that I have with a student - as I&#039;m sure others do, but I still feel it isn&#039;t enough.

I think there is a great deal of publicity and outreach that can be done to help students see how the library - and, even better, the librarians - can help them. Of course, even as I type that, I will admit that more publicity and outreach may not fully address the issue either, as I can see that better user-centered design is another avenue with so much potential. I&#039;m sure others can think of more than I can. 

I&#039;m not saying I know the answer. I&#039;m just saying that, while user education will go a long way (and I am perfectly willing to do as much of that as I can), I don&#039;t know if user education is enough to change public perception if we can&#039;t get someone to ask a librarian - or even visit the instruction materials we provide on our sites - so that we can begin to educate them. 

I wanted to add this because this is a frustration I have felt for a while, and your post made me want to step on the soapbox for a minute. I&#039;ll step off now. Thanks to those who listened.

Thank you for sharing this. I even signed up for the Beta account to try this out since I&#039;m an inquisitive librarian as well. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, </p>
<p>I agree with you wholeheartedly that this reflects a need for more user education. I would like to add something you touched on, which is that this also brings up the issue of student perceptions of the library. </p>
<p>I recognize that many students don&#8217;t know about the great search options in many databases, but, my broader concern is that the students don&#8217;t even realize that they don&#8217;t know that better searching exists. If someone is ignorant of their ignorance (even if it&#8217;s through no fault of their own), how would they know to ask a librarian to begin with? I have tried to use every &#8220;teachable moment&#8221; opportunity that I have with a student &#8211; as I&#8217;m sure others do, but I still feel it isn&#8217;t enough.</p>
<p>I think there is a great deal of publicity and outreach that can be done to help students see how the library &#8211; and, even better, the librarians &#8211; can help them. Of course, even as I type that, I will admit that more publicity and outreach may not fully address the issue either, as I can see that better user-centered design is another avenue with so much potential. I&#8217;m sure others can think of more than I can. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying I know the answer. I&#8217;m just saying that, while user education will go a long way (and I am perfectly willing to do as much of that as I can), I don&#8217;t know if user education is enough to change public perception if we can&#8217;t get someone to ask a librarian &#8211; or even visit the instruction materials we provide on our sites &#8211; so that we can begin to educate them. </p>
<p>I wanted to add this because this is a frustration I have felt for a while, and your post made me want to step on the soapbox for a minute. I&#8217;ll step off now. Thanks to those who listened.</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing this. I even signed up for the Beta account to try this out since I&#8217;m an inquisitive librarian as well. <img src='http://acrlog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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